#844: “Squared Circle realpolitik”


[07:55] *** Fri Jul 22 2005 - LOGGING START ***
[07:55] *** Now talking in #suburbansenshi

[07:55] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> i might upgrade my pentium IV box to AMD
[07:55] <GERMATOID> HOW COME
[07:56] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> the new processors will have DDR2 installed
[07:56] <GERMATOID> YOU DO KNOW THAT *DOESN'T* MEAN DANCE DANCE REVOLUTION, RIGHT
[07:56] * --=[ SpeedRcrX ]=-- cancels her internet order
[07:56] *** FireFly_9 [ruin@ntt1.docomo.jp] has joined #suburbansenshi
[07:56] <@spiritflame> Irasshai FireFly_9
[07:56] <GERMATOID> MORNING DEAR
[07:57] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> Yo, 'Taru!
[07:57] <FireFly_9> Good morning.
[07:57] <FireFly_9> Ahh, Haruka-poppa. Yuor beloved WWE has sunk to new lows once again.
[07:57] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> Huh
[07:58] <FireFly_9> As if race-baiting wasn't bad enough by making the first arab-american to ever make it to the mainstream be a terrorist sympathizer wasn't bad enough, now because of the backlash
[07:59] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> Hey he's just playing the role of bad guy like the iron shiek in the 80's
[07:59] <FireFly_9> Which I am frankly quite amazed they seem to be pretending they never saw coming, they plan to "kill" off the character after a fight with the Undertaker.
[08:01] <FireFly_9> Yes well in the '80s there had been no 911 attack, and "Mohammed Hassan's" invective has been quite inflammatory. Rather than paint him as a productive member of society, they made him a whiner usind dispreputable tactics to win, and intermixed actual legitimate political discourse with wanton acts of treachery, thus completely degrading the validity of those points in the public mind.
[08:03] <// J_Daito //> Tomoe the Younger, the average wrestling fan doesn't even know where the middle east is on a Map. "It's part of Africa? NO WAY". You think the loss of some political philosophy is going to matter to them? These are the guys who chanted "USA" for Chris Benoit way back when.
[08:03] <// J_Daito //> You know. Chris Benoit. The CANADIAN crippler.
[08:04] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> 'Taru what's the point, they f[BLEEP]ked up because they had him do his schtick in a taped show that basically aired the same day as the london bombings.
[08:05] <FireFly_9> The *point*, dear Haruka-poppa is that he would get the crowds into such a stir that Arab-americans would legitimately feel afraid at the bile that was being brought up in the audience.
[08:06] <FireFly_9> I'm sure that in real life the wrestler who plays "Mohammed Haasan" is a fairly decent person, and I am also aware he's probably just doing as he's told, but you'd think they'd try, for once, to make the first EVER arab wrestler on their show be a positive influence.
[08:06] <FireFly_9> Now his most lasting contribution will be getting killed by the Undertaker or some such.
[08:07] <GERMATOID> HOTARU-CHAN THIS IS A SHOW WHERE ACCEPTABLE BEHAVIOUR INCLUDES BEATING YOUR OPPONENT OVER THE HEAD WITH A STEEL CHAIR AND CRUSHING THEIR LARNYX WITH A RING BELL NOT TO MENTION HAVING LINGERIE PILLOWFIGHTS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE RING. WHAT DOD YOU EXPECT REALLY?
[08:09] <// J_Daito //> Lingerie pillowfights? I've obviously not been watching enough.
[08:09] * FireFly_9 sighs
[08:09] * FireFly_9 just finds it somewhat aggravating that a whole third of the population gets tarred with a broad brush.
[08:10] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> What do you care you're not part of that group.
[08:10] <FireFly_9> Do you recall what happened to Japanese in World War II?
[08:10] <// J_Daito //> There was a war on.
[08:10] <FireFly_9> These were domestic citizens.
[08:11] <FireFly_9> And today of course, we have our "war on terror"
[08:12] <FireFly_9> - The ceremony of innocence is drowned; / The best lack all convictions, while the worst Are full of passionate intensity. / Surely some revelation is at hand; / Surely the Second Coming is at hand. -
[08:12] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> You're always saying that s[BLEEP]t
[08:12] <FireFly_9> We are being set up for a monumental clash of civilisations.
[08:14] <@S.X. Aino> Straw Man, Bogeyman, Tin foil hat. Give me a conspiracy quick as all that.
[08:14] <FireFly_9> Sakura-chan, how can you say that?
[08:14] * FireFly_9 is dismayed at you.
[08:15] <@S.X. Aino> Whaat? I didn't say anything, I just spouted random words as I'm wont to do from time to time. What you read into them is entirely up to you, lacking context.
[08:16] <@S.X. Aino> And context, my dear prehistoric giblet, is what most people lack in this age of compartmentalized, 500-channel "pick your source" selective infotainment.
[08:17] <FireFly_9> Prehistoric?
[08:17] <@S.X. Aino> Sorry, sorries XD
[08:18] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> Hotaru-chan worries too damn much about s[BLEEP]t she can't change.
[08:18] <FireFly_9> Some days I just feel like bringing down the glaive on principle.
[08:18] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> What whatdid I do?
[08:18] <FireFly_9> NOT YOU, Haruka-poppa. Just.... everything.
[08:19] <FireFly_9> From mass entertainment to the "news", society is slowly being split into polarized camps of "us vs. them" on BOTH sides of the cultural divide. There can't be rapproachment with the moderate elements of either side because those elements are lost in the hue and cry of the zealots.
[08:21] <@S.X. Aino> Hmm.
[08:21] <@S.X. Aino> As resident historian I suppose I should provide some kind of useful stuff at this juncture...
[08:22] <@S.X. Aino> Here Hotaru-P, not that you don't already know it all. --> https://www.archive.org/details/ThePowerOfNightmares
[08:23] * FireFly_9 just sighs.
[08:24] <@S.X. Aino> Hotaru-P,. I know how you feel... the world is so big, and people so mind-bashingly stupid and small and petty, squabbling over limited resources while the planet burns around them. But this doesn't last forever, you know.
[08:24] <FireFly_9> Do we evolve past it, or just carry our problems to new worlds, or just grind to a halt here on a planet that either kills us or gets razed into a ball of radioactive glass?
[08:25] <@S.X. Aino> That, my dear Ken Jennings, is the Million Dollar Double Jeopardy question XD
[08:30] *** @S.X. Aino [user-999who@TARDIS6787.panopticon7.gallifrey.sen] has quit IRC ("If humans were to know they survive, would they even try to improve themselves or merely lapse into a content state of blissful self-indulgence, banking on history to sort things out? Is it not possible that by formenting a mentality of perpetually teetering on the edge of destruction, humanity is forced to make repeated 'gut-checks' which force it to behave more rationally and responsibly? HAHAHAHAHA if you believed that line of bullocks I've got a super-elite cabal of elite foreign overlords to sell to you as the latest threat to home, country and preserved, pre-processed packaged dinner products." -- Sakura X. Aino, "The Dynamics of Fear in late Humanian-Era Earth", Univ. of Gallifrey Press, pp. 237674 (456748696.7378 local dateline))
[08:30] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> ........ Longest. /quit. ever.
[08:32] <GERMATOID> HEY THE OFFICIAL NAME FOR THE NEXT VERSION OF WINDOWS IS OUT IT WILL BE CALLED "VISTA"
[08:32] <// J_Daito //> The "Vista" you can see outside of your "Windows" - Clever
[08:33] * // J_Daito // sill can't run VistaPro
[08:33] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> DUDE my f[BLEEP]king pocket calculator is stronger than your computer now
[08:33] *** Disconnected
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