Suburban Senshi IRC Chat #543: “Stars = Pain (Spoilers for End of Stars Anime / Manga)”
#543: “Stars = Pain (Spoilers for End of Stars Anime / Manga)”

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[22:35] * Dr_Xadium gives Mina a hug

[22:35] <Cést_la_V>
[22:35] * Dr_Xadium gives Hotaru-chan a hug

[22:35] <FireFly_9> ...thank you?
[22:35] * Dr_Xadium gives Artemis a hug

[22:35] <=^catablanca^=> huh?
[22:36] * Dr_Xadium decks Haruka and Michiru with brass knucks

[22:37] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> WTF ass[BLEEP]
[22:37] <Mdm_Maestro> Really!!
[22:38] <Dr_Xadium> I just watched the end of Stars, be glad I don't permaban you lot
[22:38] * Dr_Xadium remembers the scene where Minako-tachi lose their starseeds, and where Uranus and Neptune BACKSTAB Hotaru and Setsuna

[22:39] <FireFly_9> Oh yes... I remember that PAINFULLY clearly
[22:39] <Cést_la_V> It's all right X-chan, we came out of it ok-- by the seats of our teeth, but ok ;)
[22:40] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> Man Sets was in on it, we just didn't tell 'Taru because she's a crap actor
[22:40] <FireFly_9> Your lies sicken me.
[22:41] <=^catablanca^=> So why do I get a hug?
[22:41] <Dr_Xadium> I read the end of the Stars manga for the first time...
[22:41] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> Dude, that
[22:41] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> was apocryphal '
[22:42] <FireFly_9> Yes, by the manga we would have taken until the 30th century to have our bodies regenerated into their proper form, which is ludicrous.
[22:43] <Cést_la_V> How does that work?
[22:43] <FireFly_9> A thing is ludicrous when it defies all sense of common logic or practice.
[22:44] <Cést_la_V> ... I MEAN, how does the theory work?
[22:44] <FireFly_9> Well, Sailor Cosmos says the seeds thrown into Galaxy Caluron were reborn and heading to their planets, but it would take them some time to get there, and when they did they would have their bodies back by then.
[22:44] <FireFly_9> THEN we see Usagi and Mamoru waking up in bed together
[22:45] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> Like a certain scandalous no painting..
[22:45] * Cést_la_V smacks Haruka-san

[22:45] <FireFly_9> And they are in the 30th century deciding to get married, and Chibiusa being about to be born. And all of you were there.
[22:46] <Cést_la_V> So that's how Takeuchi-sensei tied up the plot hole?? But what about the freezing of the Earth?
[22:47] <FireFly_9> Either we were to have missed it, or via the time gate we go back in time and resume our normal lives until whatever happens happened.
[22:48] <FireFly_9> But that would be contradicted by the implication that Usagi left home never to return.
[22:48] <Cést_la_V> Ahh..
[22:48] <FireFly_9> But as we all know the true history is quite different.
[22:49] <// J_Daito //> I kicked Galaxias ass you know
[22:49] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> Bull[BLEEP]
[22:49] <FireFly_9> Yes, Really.. *I* could not beat her...
[22:49] <// J_Daito //> No really I'll show you..., do the fire divination thing and show them
[22:50] <spiritflame> I will show them this

(A long red / gold haired lady (GALAXIA in civilian form) is on a desolate planet depositing star seeds)
(A teleport portal opens and JEDITE emerges)
JED: Hey Baby.
GAL: ?
JED: So you're the famous Sailor Galaxia who laid the smackdown on some associates of mine a few years back
GAL: That was a lifetime ago... another life.
(The woman smiles peacefully)
GAL: Thanks to the love of Sailor Moon, the hatred and anger within me was released, and I reverted to my previous, peaceful self.
JED: Gah, Moon does that crap to almost EVERYBODY, I'm glad I missed the "cleansing" of her "love".
GAL: Please excuse me, I must complete my task, to re-seed the worlds I destroyed in my quest to bring order to the galaxy.
JED: Order through death, huh? You're my kinda chick.
GAL: But I am no longer that way.
JED: Lemme see this thing here (snatches away a starseed).
JED: Shiny...
GAL: Please return it! It's a precious Sailor Crystal!
JED: Ooh, so Uranus and the others have one of these? (Drops it on the ground and crushes it under his heel. It is undamaged)
JED: Pretty tough. (Tosses it in the air and Swallows it, to Galaxia's horror)
JED: Hmm, I don't feel any different....
GAL: You can't gain Sailor Senshi power by swallowing a Sailor Crystal!
JED: Damn I think I have indigestion. (Walks over to Galaxia and slaps her on the rear) Hey don't worry, you'll get it back in a few hours
GAL: ...
JED: Wanna go out on the town? I know this sweet little bar in Roppongi... (cops a feel)
GAL: Get your HANDS off ME! (angry)
JED: Ooh, Fiesty.
GAL: You IMPUDENT--- (eyes flash)
JED: Grrr... yeah baby, yeah! Come to the Jedite...
GAL: GALAXIA POWER, MAKE UP! (Transforms into Galaxia, is wielding the big ass sword)
JED: Hoho, thanks for the peepshow, I'm sure Uranus will pay good yen for these beauty shots! (puts away digital camera)
(Fires her bolts of light. Jedite dodges by teleport)
JED: HAHAHA you missed stupid tin-plated wench-- AGH! (the bolts swing around and hit him in the back. A starseed pops out, it is already dull black, with a red glowing core)

GAL: I've never seen one like this before...
(Jedite's body collapses on the ground. Galaxia grabs the starseed in her fist. Her fist then rises up and smacks her in the head)
GAL: What the?!
JED'S STARSEED: (tinny voice) hohoho! Stupid fool! I am the MOST EVIL STARSEED IN THE UNIVERSE!!
(Galaxia's fist continues to hit her head-- finally she releases the starseed, and it zips all around, smacking her everywhere like a bullet with extreme force
JED'S STARSEED: (tinny voice) Starseeds are indestructible... you're not! (continues to pummel her, puts out one eye, goes down the front of her fuku and explodes out the front to Galaxia's chagrin)
GAL: FOOL! I can melt you down in the Galaxy Cauldron!
JED'S STARSEED: (tinny voice) Only if you can catch me! (it flies around her some more, amking her dizzy. TYhen when she falls over, it does a back and forth jig over her nose-- just before it goes up it and back out again
GAL: AGH! WHY YOU-- (muffled as the mucus covered starseed flies up her mouth. Aghast, Galaxia gets up and vomits it out)
JED'S STARSEED: (tinny voice) Wow, I'm so small and fast and HARD! I'm WAY more powerful now! Thanks, Gally-babe!
GAL: BLAST YOU!!! (Zaps the Starseed and puts it back in Jed's body)
JED: Hahaha! The mighty Galaxia, brought low by the mightry JEDITE! MUAHAHAHAHAH--
(Galaxia floors Jedite with one stiff punch to the face)

[23:09] <// J_Daito //> You didn't need to show that bit you know
[23:10] <spiritflame> hehehehehe
[23:10] <Dr_Xadium> It's just that the end of stars always gets me depressed, I don't like to see you guys get hurt.
[23:10] <Cést_la_V>
[23:11] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> Aww... thanks, doc
[23:11] <Dr_Xadium> Except for you and Michiru
[23:11] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> Well [BLEEP] you too
[23:11] <Dr_Xadium> LMAO
[23:11] <Dr_Xadium> So Michiru, fixed your lipstick yet?
[23:12] <Mdm_Maestro> DAMN THAT YATEN!!! WHAT A FOOL!!!! WHAT DOES HE KNOW?!!?!
[23:12] <Cést_la_V> Michiru-san is so vain, ne?
[23:12] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> You have no idea. NO IDEA
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The "spoiler" warning motivated me to finally take a deep breath and watch the last six episodes. Lame how they just let Chaos float away at the end; but I wouldn't deny a hug to any of them. When you're a soldier, and hip deep in it, you do what you have to do. Michiru's training resonated in Haruka, and it looks to me like their joint attack - amplified by Chaos/Galaxia's own power - weakened Galaxia, so that the Starlights' joint attack later had an effect when it couldn't before.

Al Vest [e-mail] • 04/28/04 09:30pm

Mmmm, I personally did feel sorry for Haruka and Michiru at the end of Stars. They may have thought they were doing the right thing (as they did throughout the entire series), and they miscalculated. They took the only shot they could think of at Galaxia and it didn't work.

I mean really, it was either turn on their teammates and and wait to get a good shot at Galaxia, or, yanno, leave everything to Sailor Moon. And who really wants to do that?

Ryuutchi • 04/27/04 03:49am

Oh yeah, sure. . . Michiru was a horrible bitch, right? I mean, LETTING Usagi play her violin which is very exspensive! Major bitch vibs right? Oh and the stuck-up Haruka feeling like her hands were unclean from all she had to do as a senshi! I mean, what gives her the right to have emotion, right? God, you guys are SO right! They are assholes. *rolls eyes*

Moonstar [e-mail] • 04/26/04 06:22pm

Haruka and Michiru always came across as snooty @$$holes to me in the anime. When they got their butts kicked by Galaxia I wanted to run up and kick the crap out of them for being such dumb schmucks.

Solarchos [e-mail] • 04/25/04 04:07pm

You should have said something about the sad way Haruka and Michiru died in the anime...Even though they were kinda evil beforehand, that part just softens your heart a least it did for me XD

Rei_chan [e-mail] • 04/25/04 03:18pm

I agree with Wolfwood, but who shall be punished first? Who?! But...who??! >gets thwapped for unauthorized William Shatner impression<

Solarchos [e-mail] • 04/24/04 04:21pm

Saturn Girl has the right idea! Uranus,Neptune,chibi-runt,horse boy....ALL MUST FALL IN THE NAME OF THE DEATH SENSHI !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

DJ WOLFWOOD [e-mail] • 04/24/04 09:29am

Didn't Xadium-san feel just a bit sad and/or sorry for Uranus and Neptune when they died? Sure, Lethe's and Mnemosyne's(sp?) deaths were even sadder, but they were the enemy. And sure, the manga ending was confusing, although beautfiul, but the anime version of the ending was just so...sad. Well, sad in the fact that it ended. Gah, I don't know what I'm trying to say anymore. Let's just say that I liked the anime ending better.

Euri-Lynn [e-mail] • 04/24/04 08:34am

-_-; It was PLANNED.

Uninformed Newbie [e-mail] • 04/24/04 12:05am

I think Tin-Nyanko is much more evil than Jedite... She's bad being bad!

Senshi • 04/24/04 12:04am

Yes! Slap Haruka and Michiru several times over for their betrayal of poor little Hotaru-chan, and Setsuna-chan! Even though they claim to have had a real plan behind their actions, it is inexcusable to turn against their innocent littel leader! It's mutiny I tells ya! Mutiny of the worst kind! As a member of the Senshi Corps. I will punish both Haruka-kun and Michiru-san, in the name of Saturn! *SMACK*

SaturnGrl [e-mail] • 04/23/04 11:40pm

Mmmm...Animamates...! >drools over the thought of Iron Mouse, Lead Crow, and Aluminum Siren...but not Tin Nyanko<

Here's my comment to Jedite. You are NOT the most evil thing in the universe, bub. You are quasi-evil. You are semi-evil. You are the margarine of evil. You are the diet cola of evil. Just one calorie! Not evil enough!

Solarchos [e-mail] • 04/23/04 04:26pm

I'll probably have to re-read the ending... it just seems rushed and convoluted to me...
(of course it's the MIXXed up version so that could be part of the problem)
I can see though, why Takeuchi might be irritated that the anime didn't go like the manga... they established lots of neat new facts about what it means to be Sailor Senshi (and not to mention the fact that the Starlights can hop from world to world with ease)
Somehow, though... I still like the anime's ending... I suppose it was less "brutal"... and to me it seems like they do just end up in the 30th century in the Manga, (which I could be wrong about) and I don't like that, really.

Xadium • 04/23/04 10:46am

I never thought that the scene with Mamoru and Usagi waking up in bed at the end of the Stars manga was intended to be immediately after the Cauldron... I always assumed it to be a cut to the future. I mean, how could it not be? It's not like they could have just woken up there, because Mamoru mentions having proposed to Usagi the night before (repeatedly). The only odd thing about that is the "it feels like I've been having a long, long dream" line, but it works anyway. It could always be that her memories of the Cauldron and Cosmos and stuff are just somewhat fuzzy, and that in her dreams she was flashing back to them... or whatever.

Dallbun [e-mail] • 04/23/04 10:01am