#351: “Debate - The Matrix Revolutions (SPOILERS)”

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[16:53] <// J_Daito //> back
[16:53] <FireFly_9> AUTOMATED MESSAGE: The Matrix has me... but will it have me Wretching?
[16:54] <// J_Daito //> Ah. Watching it. *shakes head*
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[18:00] <FireFly_9> Heh. The only fault I saw was the lack of "Rage Against the Machine" at the end.
[18:00] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> and the zion fights were too long
[18:01] <// J_Daito //> Bull[BLEEP]
[18:01] <FireFly_9> ?
[18:02] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> what
[18:02] <// J_Daito //> It sucked.
[18:02] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> Bull[BLEEP]
[18:02] <FireFly_9> It was a fine movie, if overly tedious at points.
[18:03] <// J_Daito //> bull[BLEEP] .
[18:04] <// J_Daito //> It sucked.
[18:04] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> example
[18:04] <// J_Daito //> Let me ask.
[18:04] <// J_Daito //> Movie One.
[18:05] <// J_Daito //> Nature of REALITY
[18:05] <// J_Daito //> movie TWO
[18:05] <// J_Daito //> nature of WHY WE DO WHAT we DO
[18:05] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> dude it was fricken DBZ
[18:05] <FireFly_9> True there was a lack of overt philosophical discussion but
[18:06] <// J_Daito //> movie 3
[18:06] <// J_Daito //> CHOICE?
[18:06] <// J_Daito //> BULL[BLEEP]
[18:06] <FireFly_9> I disagree.
[18:07] <// J_Daito //> Its stupid.
[18:07] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> movie 3 was
[18:07] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> DBZ
[18:07] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> that's all
[18:07] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> the logical conclusion
[18:07] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> no more questions
[18:07] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> just answers
[18:07] <// J_Daito //> it.
[18:07] <// J_Daito //> SUCKED
[18:08] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> NO
[18:08] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> I DISAGREE
[18:08] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> when I heard what it could have been
[18:08] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> i.e. Neo is a machine
[18:08] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> i.e. the kid is the arcitect
[18:08] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> no man
[18:08] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> this was the outcome of high stakes gamblign
[18:08] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> belief and purpose
[18:08] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> why do we do things
[18:08] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> are the questions
[18:08] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> that set ecveryone
[18:08] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> onto the path
[18:08] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> of the last movie
[18:08] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> the last movie was about 1 thing
[18:09] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> consequence.
[18:09] <// J_Daito //> Man.
[18:09] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> the first two were why do you do what you do
[18:09] <// J_Daito //> This
[18:09] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> the last was
[18:10] <// J_Daito //> movie
[18:10] <// J_Daito //> SUCKED
[18:10] <// J_Daito //> Plus its bull[BLEEP] Ten'ou, and you know it
[18:10] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> can you face the consequences
[18:10] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> I don't think so
[18:10] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> I think if we saw all 3
[18:11] <// J_Daito //> F[BLEEP] man
[18:11] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> in one shot
[18:11] <// J_Daito //> it is BULL[BLEEP]
[18:11] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> it would be ok
[18:12] <FireFly_9> May I interject?
[18:12] <// J_Daito //> no
[18:12] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> NO
[18:12] <FireFly_9> ...
[18:12] <// J_Daito //> that connected to the source [BLEEP]was Nonsensical
[18:13] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> no
[18:13] <// J_Daito //> that "inbetween place"
[18:13] <// J_Daito //> AGAIN
[18:13] <// J_Daito //> nonsensical.
[18:13] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> it's obvious - the machines have a buffer
[18:14] <// J_Daito //> Obvious they let you smoke what they are smoking.
[18:14] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> between their system and the matrix
[18:14] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> now think, they couldn't touch smith until Neo, who was connected to them
[18:15] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> let smith interface with him via the viral infection
[18:15] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> he sacrified himself
[18:15] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> more or less
[18:15] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> to give the machines their "in" to smith
[18:15] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> but he'll be back
[18:15] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> you see
[18:15] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> it's Gnostic
[18:15] <FireFly_9> ...!
[18:15] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> the Jesus was resurrected in 3 days
[18:15] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> they are playing this [BLEEP] by the book
[18:16] <// J_Daito //> bull[BLEEP] .
[18:17] <// J_Daito //> it = bull[BLEEP] .
[18:17] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> NO
[18:17] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> I will defend ze MAtrix Revolutions
[18:18] <FireFly_9> I do believe I would be better suited--
[18:18] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> BACK OFF!
[18:18] <FireFly_9> ...
[18:18] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> I can hold my own in intellectual debate you know! It was all in the debate books I read as a child!
[18:18] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> thik about this
[18:18] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> I will concede this, perhaps it should not have been made a sep. movie
[18:18] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> I think it needs Reloaded to balance it
[18:19] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> because Reloaded sets up the philosphical ground
[18:19] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> "the before"
[18:19] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> and 3 is what happens after you pull the trigger
[18:19] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> which on its own is not as intellecutally interesting
[18:20] <// J_Daito //> This from someone who thinks skittles in beer are intellectually fascinating
[18:20] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> even I got tired ot the xion fights fast
[18:20] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> I would have preferredmore exkication
[18:20] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> explication
[18:20] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> but look
[18:21] <// J_Daito //> Look.
[18:21] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> 1 was the best as far as they go intellectually
[18:22] <// J_Daito //> Concurrence
[18:22] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> they tuned the world upside down
[18:22] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> 2 was good because irt explored other questions
[18:22] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> 3... just had to wrap it up
[18:22] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> imaine if they had started asking all new questions
[18:22] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> and failed to answer them
[18:22] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> now I'll tell you
[18:22] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> why neo
[18:22] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> was connected to the source
[18:22] <// J_Daito //> Yes Kreskin you do that
[18:22] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> The Red Candy.
[18:22] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> Remember
[18:22] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> Red Pill puts you to sleep
[18:22] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> i.e. hooks you back into the machine
[18:22] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> Red Candy is probably a variant
[18:22] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> that's wht
[18:22] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> he "thanks" the Orcale for her gift
[18:23] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> when he refuses another
[18:23] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> and says he needed time to process it all
[18:23] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> she modified him
[18:23] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> now Smith shows
[18:23] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> that code can influence the human mind too
[18:23] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> he took over bane remember
[18:24] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> so
[18:24] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> Red Candy
[18:24] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> fixed up Neo
[18:24] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> so he could be "connected" and see
[18:24] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> they should have made that more explicit, granted
[18:25] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> Now
[18:25] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> He probably triggered self destructs in the sentinels
[18:25] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> or something
[18:25] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> [BLEEP]ed up their power regulation or something
[18:25] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> agreed it could have been better explained
[18:25] <// J_Daito //> man.
[18:26] <// J_Daito //> Its.
[18:26] <// J_Daito //> *bull[BLEEP] *
[18:26] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> NO
[18:26] <// J_Daito //> And I can go into it if you wnat.
[18:26] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> ys
[18:26] <// J_Daito //> the movie just sucked.
[18:26] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> let's go into it
[18:26] <// J_Daito //> on SO many levels.
[18:27] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> go for it
[18:27] <// J_Daito //> 1. Neo is able to be jacked in...
[18:27] <// J_Daito //> inside a place
[18:27] <// J_Daito //> Between the matrix
[18:27] <// J_Daito //> and the real world
[18:27] <// J_Daito //> without being jacked in.
[18:27] <// J_Daito //> Information passes
[18:27] <// J_Daito //> from his brain
[18:27] <// J_Daito //> to the quasi-matrix
[18:27] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> no
[18:27] <// J_Daito //> and the matrix
[18:27] <// J_Daito //> it doesn't
[18:27] <// J_Daito //> and now
[18:28] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> you'll dispute me
[18:28] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> and this is their fault
[18:28] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> but in the game
[18:28] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> the oracle says
[18:28] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> his mind was split
[18:28] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> in the accident
[18:28] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> his mind was in the matrix
[18:28] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> out of his body
[18:28] <// J_Daito //> Sadly I wish I could accept that but you are forgetting in the movie...
[18:28] <// J_Daito //> his brains cans
[18:28] <// J_Daito //> showed the activity
[18:29] <// J_Daito //> of someone JACKED IN
[18:29] <// J_Daito //> HAH
[18:29] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> hmm
[18:29] <GERMATOID> QUANTUM TUNNELING
[18:29] <GERMATOID> MUAHAHAHA!
[18:30] <// J_Daito //> ...
[18:30] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> LOL ok next
[18:30] <// J_Daito //> A big [BLEEP]ass ing unanswered question.
[18:30] <// J_Daito //> HE asks the oracle how
[18:31] <// J_Daito //> and her answer
[18:31] <// J_Daito //> is that his connection
[18:31] <// J_Daito //> to the SOURCE
[18:31] <// J_Daito //> extends to the real world.
[18:31] <// J_Daito //> WHAT THE [BLEEP] kind of answer is that?
[18:31] <// J_Daito //> NO answer.
[18:31] <FireFly_9> A perfectly oracular answer, actually...
[18:31] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> and the red candy man
[18:31] <// J_Daito //> NOW
[18:32] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> the red candy
[18:32] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> haha
[18:32] <// J_Daito //> he is jacked in
[18:32] <// J_Daito //> while NOT being jacked in
[18:32] <// J_Daito //> but they get the merovingians train man
[18:32] <// J_Daito //> trinity that is
[18:32] <// J_Daito //> to pull him out
[18:32] <// J_Daito //> but THEM
[18:32] <// J_Daito //> THEN
[18:32] <// J_Daito //> to get him out of the matrix
[18:33] <// J_Daito //> they UNPLUG him from the chair
[18:33] <// J_Daito //> so I guess
[18:33] <// J_Daito //> nonono
[18:33] <// J_Daito //> the train
[18:33] <// J_Daito //> THEY PLUGGED HIM INTO the CHAIR?
[18:33] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> gets him
[18:33] <// J_Daito //> even tho he was jacked in when NOT jacked in?
[18:33] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> INTO the matrix
[18:33] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> from whence he could et out
[18:33] <// J_Daito //> Gah...
[18:33] <// J_Daito //> Maybe. MAYBE.
[18:34] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> he was stuck in between
[18:34] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> the matrix
[18:34] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> and the machine system
[18:34] <// J_Daito //> and the whoel IN between
[18:34] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> [BLEEP] like a firewall
[18:34] <GERMATOID> BINGO!
[18:34] <// J_Daito //> ,,,
[18:35] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> it was a [BLEEP]ing firewall
[18:35] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> data goes in and out
[18:35] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> Veringy whatever can smuggle you in
[18:35] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> now I did want to see HIS ass beat badly
[18:35] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> I get the feeling
[18:35] <// J_Daito //> *MAN*
[18:35] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> the DVD foe this movie
[18:35] <// J_Daito //> Lets go on, shall we?
[18:35] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> will ave the game footage
[18:36] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> ok
[18:36] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> haha
[18:36] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> wait
[18:36] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> I got you
[18:36] <// J_Daito //> OBVIOUSLY
[18:36] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> I got yer ass HAHAHA
[18:36] <// J_Daito //> he is still connected.
[18:36] <// J_Daito //> to the matrix
[18:36] <// J_Daito //> EVEN WHEN NOT jacked in
[18:36] <// J_Daito //> otherwise explain the open hand
[18:36] <// J_Daito //> Blow up sentinel bull[BLEEP] ?
[18:36] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> I just told you
[18:36] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> the pill changed his perceptions
[18:37] <// J_Daito //> CHANGED HIS PERCEPTIONS?
[18:37] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> look
[18:37] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> remember
[18:37] <// J_Daito //> HE IS JACKED IN.
[18:37] <// J_Daito //> Man.
[18:37] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> he's not totally flesh and blood
[18:37] <// J_Daito //> Without a jack.
[18:37] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> he has machine parts
[18:37] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> perhaps a transmitter
[18:37] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> not a huge one
[18:37] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> but then this si supermachine tech
[18:37] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> it might not need to be large
[18:37] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> normally it wouldn;t do shit
[18:38] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> but with some new code
[18:38] <// J_Daito //> lmao
[18:38] <// J_Daito //> You
[18:38] <// J_Daito //> are REACHING
[18:38] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> from the MOTHER of the damn matrix
[18:38] <// J_Daito //> and i respect that
[18:38] <// J_Daito //> but you are RETCONNING
[18:38] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> no
[18:38] <// J_Daito //> the [BLEEP] out of this sh[BLEEP] to try and make itw ork.
[18:39] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> he has machine parts
[18:39] <// J_Daito //> THEY have NONE of that
[18:39] <// J_Daito //> in the movie
[18:39] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> it's true
[18:39] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> yes
[18:39] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> look at #1
[18:39] <// J_Daito //> YOU are dropping it in
[18:39] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> Dozer
[18:39] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> is produ that he
[18:39] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> was a pure flesh and blood human
[18:39] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> Mrphy, Neo and Trinity
[18:39] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> all have jacks
[18:39] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> ehich came from
[18:39] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> the machines
[18:39] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> having them plugged in
[18:40] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> or have you forgotten
[18:40] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> how humans were
[18:40] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> who knows WTF machines
[18:40] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> are tied into them
[18:40] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> their brains
[18:40] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> I mean theur brains are machine compatible
[18:40] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> think about it
[18:40] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> the interface was made that way in order foe the matri to exist
[18:41] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> to serve its purpose
[18:41] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> and yes
[18:41] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> I am reaching just a tad
[18:41] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> haha
[18:41] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> but reach with me
[18:41] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> haha
[18:41] <// J_Daito //> Bah
[18:41] <// J_Daito //> matrix 3
[18:41] <// J_Daito //> Sucked.
[18:41] <// J_Daito //> When Smith goes Why why why. Its because the eyes of the oracle let him see the plot.
[18:41] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=-->
[18:41] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> lol
[18:41] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> I see you gave up
[18:41] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> intellecutsaual discourse
[18:41] <// J_Daito //> No.
[18:41] <// J_Daito //> I'll talk more.
[18:42] <.'~SugaBB_2999~'.> yo lik dud U newtic dat troniti has lik tree peaces ov rebarb stuckin ot of hr? hshshshshshs!
[18:43] <// J_Daito //> I had no proble
[18:43] <// J_Daito //> m
[18:43] <// J_Daito //> with the trinity death
[18:44] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> Why do I find that so easy to swallow?
[18:44] <// J_Daito //> EXCEPT
[18:44] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> You can;t tell me Niobe's driving skillz were lost on you
[18:44] <// J_Daito //> it took so [BLEEP]ing long. Even *I*, the Dark General who caused enemies to take 6 days to die, found it onerous!
[18:45] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> yes
[18:45] <// J_Daito //> I mean- come on.
[18:45] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> YES
[18:45] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> I did an MST3K
[18:45] <// J_Daito //> but...
[18:45] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> of like when Torgo in one of the movies
[18:45] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> dithers in a corner for like 5 minutes
[18:45] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> Joel yels "DO SOMETHING:
[18:45] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> I was lik e"DIE ALREADY"
[18:45] <// J_Daito //> Anyway.
[18:45] <// J_Daito //> Heres my problem.
[18:46] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> yes?
[18:46] <// J_Daito //> Number 1 pandering
[18:46] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> hmm?
[18:46] <// J_Daito //> morph is black, seraph is asian,
[18:46] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> umm
[18:46] <// J_Daito //> neo is haxor boy, trinity is haxor girl.
[18:47] <FireFly_9> The point has been made that Zion would logically be composed primarily of minorities and fringe subculture elements precisely because they would be the first to want to escape a "System" that basically promotes the values of mainstream WASP society above their own. Thus they would be more inclined to disbelieve and challenge the Matrix and ultimately escape.
[18:49] <// J_Daito //> Very funny.
[18:49] <FireFly_9> In the history of modern hollywood, no "mainstream" franchise *series* has ever told story of such scope and depth with so many "minority" characters in it playing such pivotal roles. This is a new, more balanced direction, and I don't see why the movie should be faulted for it. Besides, if you look at the global percentage of the population, zion is more representative of the global ethnic balance as a whole.
[18:52] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> YEah the preppy guys woulnt' want to leave the matrix
[18:52] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> rememner wehat's his face
[18:52] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> who became Mr. Reagan?
[18:52] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> he left he wanted the[BLEEP] back
[18:53] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> bad
[18:53] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> he didn't care
[18:53] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> so Smith cuts the deal
[18:53] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> it's a layer of discourse
[18:53] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> maybe not the most palatable
[18:53] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> but it's there
[18:53] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> ok let's move past the "pandering"
[18:53] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> what are your other concerns
[18:54] <// J_Daito //> Ok.
[18:54] <// J_Daito //> Chronological.
[18:54] <// J_Daito //> Even tho I have said it.
[18:54] <// J_Daito //> Please know.
[18:54] <// J_Daito //> Neo jacked into the matrix
[18:54] <// J_Daito //> while not being jacked in
[18:54] <// J_Daito //> is a major issue.
[18:54] <// J_Daito //> and f[BLEEP] your Game
[18:54] <// J_Daito //> movie = canon.
[18:54] <// J_Daito //> and she said his brain was JACKED in
[18:54] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> umm
[18:54] <// J_Daito //> So he's in the train station.
[18:55] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> the game is canon too
[18:55] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> they shot movie footage for it
[18:55] <// J_Daito //> Movie is more canon than game!
[18:55] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> DUDE
[18:55] <// J_Daito //> ALWAYS!
[18:55] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> the footage for the game
[18:55] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> was MOVIE footage
[18:55] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> do you not understand
[18:55] <// J_Daito //> MOVIE IS MORE CANON THAN GAME! GAME LIES!
[18:55] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> NO
[18:55] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> it's canon
[18:55] <// J_Daito //> oh
[18:56] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> Wachowwski said it
[18:56] <// J_Daito //> then if his mind was split
[18:56] <// J_Daito //> his brain
[18:56] <// J_Daito //> would be DORMANT
[18:56] <// J_Daito //> and when they plugged him in
[18:56] <// J_Daito //> they'd REDOWNLOAD
[18:56] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> man
[18:56] <// J_Daito //> him into the dormant him
[18:56] <// J_Daito //> No
[18:56] <// J_Daito //> think
[18:56] <// J_Daito //> Like smith
[18:56] <// J_Daito //> he'd uploa
[18:56] <// J_Daito //> dhis matrix experiences
[18:56] <// J_Daito //> BUT HE DIDNT DO THAT
[18:57] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> Jed
[18:57] <// J_Daito //> becausse his BRAIN
[18:57] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> listen
[18:57] <// J_Daito //> WAS ACTIVE
[18:57] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> What if Neo's barain patterns were matrixy
[18:57] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> because the electrical impulses
[18:57] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> were still flitting around in aftershock
[18:57] <// J_Daito //> behold the insta retcon.
[18:57] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> from his last excperiences
[18:57] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> in the matrix
[18:57] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> LOL
[18:58] <// J_Daito //> You are RETCONING it
[18:58] <// J_Daito //> trying to make
[18:58] <// J_Daito //> pieces fit
[18:58] <// J_Daito //> on a puzzle
[18:58] <// J_Daito //> WITH A HAMMER
[18:58] <// J_Daito //> I am merely balancing the equation
[18:58] <// J_Daito //> when they DONT WORK
[18:58] <// J_Daito //> its an INHERENTLY UNBALANCED EQUATION
[18:58] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> I can RANDOMLY make WORDS big TOO
[18:58] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> next point
[19:00] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> I will
[19:00] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> give you ground on this
[19:00] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> for now
[19:00] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> because I need to see it again
[19:00] <// J_Daito //> So he's in the train station.
[19:00] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> plus #2
[19:00] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> ok...
[19:06] <// J_Daito //> which he got into
[19:06] <// J_Daito //> ON his own
[19:06] <// J_Daito //> as he said.
[19:06] <// J_Daito //> a place
[19:06] <// J_Daito //> between the matrix
[19:06] <// J_Daito //> and OUR world
[19:06] <// J_Daito //> not MACHINE WORLD
[19:06] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> no
[19:06] <// J_Daito //> OUR WORLD
[19:06] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> the machine world
[19:06] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> our world
[19:06] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> BAH
[19:07] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> equals
[19:07] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> the machine world
[19:07] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> think for a second
[19:07] <// J_Daito //> ANYWAY
[19:07] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> whaNO
[19:07] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> NO
[19:07] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> listen
[19:07] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> what is our world
[19:07] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> zion
[19:07] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> and machine city
[19:07] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> now the pipe may be a data pipe
[19:08] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> to machine city
[19:08] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> to another computer
[19:08] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> but the computer is in our world
[19:08] * --=[ SpeedRcrX ]=-- looks at you

[19:08] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> just call me Mr. Ballpeen Hammah, muthaf[BLEEP]ka
[19:08] <// J_Daito //> man.
[19:08] <// J_Daito //> I am not even gonna fight on the point.
[19:08] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> You kow this to be true
[19:08] <// J_Daito //> because it doesnt matter.
[19:08] <// J_Daito //> he is in a NOT matrix
[19:09] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> Search you Feelings
[19:09] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> God
[19:09] <// J_Daito //> and if you want to say
[19:09] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> it's a firewall
[19:09] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> one datta representation
[19:09] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> versus another
[19:09] <// J_Daito //> its the land of tiny elfs
[19:09] <// J_Daito //> it doesnt change the fact
[19:09] <// J_Daito //> that the instant befopre he went there
[19:09] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> hahahah you can't win you can't ein
[19:09] <// J_Daito //> he blew up a sentinel
[19:09] <// J_Daito //> with his MIND
[19:09] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> he was connected
[19:10] <// J_Daito //> YES
[19:10] <// J_Daito //> he wAs CONNECTED
[19:10] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> no he issued commands to it
[19:10] <// J_Daito //> NOT JACKED IN
[19:10] <// J_Daito //> and connected.
[19:10] <// J_Daito //> YES!
[19:10] <// J_Daito //> he issued a self destruct
[19:10] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> I told you
[19:10] <// J_Daito //> THROUGH THE MATRIX
[19:10] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> he has a new connection
[19:10] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> the parts in his body
[19:10] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> just
[19:10] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> facilitated
[19:10] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> LOL
[19:10] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> ok it requires a stretch on this point.
[19:11] <// J_Daito //> RETCON
[19:11] <// J_Daito //> you RETCON it
[19:11] <// J_Daito //> YOU retconning mother[BLEEP]er.
[19:11] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> But I can see past it.
[19:11] <// J_Daito //> haha.
[19:11] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> heh
[19:11] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> next
[19:12] <// J_Daito //> Ok.
[19:12] <// J_Daito //> as far as good bad.
[19:12] <// J_Daito //> guns versus squid.
[19:12] <// J_Daito //> WAS THAT FIFTEEN MINUTES?
[19:12] <// J_Daito //> yeah
[19:12] <// J_Daito //> I conceded
[19:12] <// J_Daito //> I'm not sure
[19:12] <// J_Daito //> TWENTY?
[19:12] <// J_Daito //> half an HOUR?
[19:12] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> that was too much
[19:12] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> interminab;e
[19:12] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> could have done it in half the time
[19:12] <// J_Daito //> NEXT
[19:12] <// J_Daito //> By the end of movie 2
[19:12] <// J_Daito //> they know
[19:12] <// J_Daito //> that EVERYTHING The oracle told them
[19:12] <// J_Daito //> was a lie.
[19:12] <// J_Daito //> serving her own ends or the machines.
[19:12] <// J_Daito //> Whether or not it WAS
[19:12] <// J_Daito //> it sure as[BLEEP] seemed it was.
[19:13] <// J_Daito //> to them.
[19:13] <// J_Daito //> So they go to the oracle
[19:13] <// J_Daito //> AND WHAT?
[19:13] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> simple they wanted their friend back
[19:13] <// J_Daito //> oh- you look diff.
[19:13] <// J_Daito //> we will just take your word for sh[BLEEP] now.
[19:13] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> she told them to do what they wanted
[19:13] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> think about it
[19:13] <// J_Daito //> Bah.
[19:13] <// J_Daito //> I woulda wanted to kick her ass.
[19:13] <// J_Daito //> as would anyone.
[19:14] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> You always want to kick ass tho
[19:14] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> but if your buddy
[19:14] <// J_Daito //> get some answers and take some NaMES! YAH!
[19:14] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> was in trouble
[19:14] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> and you needed a way in
[19:14] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> any way
[19:14] <// J_Daito //> Feh.
[19:14] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> wouldn;'t you go for that info
[19:14] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> having no alternative
[19:15] <// J_Daito //> Feh.
[19:15] <// J_Daito //> The merovingian s[BLEEP]it
[19:15] <// J_Daito //> was acceptable.
[19:15] <// J_Daito //> Merv thing.
[19:15] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> BAH
[19:15] <// J_Daito //> was a small good part.
[19:15] <// J_Daito //> they needed
[19:15] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> to finish with him
[19:15] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> shoulda explained him
[19:15] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> in the time
[19:15] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> they took to
[19:15] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> bust up zion 10k times
[19:15] <// J_Daito //> Hah.
[19:15] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> and explain the past 6 destructions
[19:16] <// J_Daito //> The movie is a lie.
[19:16] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> that neded explainfin
[19:16] <// J_Daito //> Its a matrix in a matrix.
[19:16] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> No
[19:16] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> Wachowskis said no
[19:16] <// J_Daito //> When Niobe holds morpheus
[19:16] <// J_Daito //> and I dont know-
[19:16] <// J_Daito //> one of them said
[19:16] <// J_Daito //> "is this real?"
[19:16] <// J_Daito //> the answer is no.
[19:16] <// J_Daito //> The architect made all that- zion.
[19:16] <// J_Daito //> as a place for rebels.
[19:16] <// J_Daito //> And the wachowski brothers are lying.
[19:16] <// J_Daito //> so they can make movie 4
[19:16] <// J_Daito //> and they lie aboutnot making
[19:16] <// J_Daito //> another.
[19:16] <// J_Daito //> just like they said
[19:16] <// J_Daito //> they'd Never make another halloween.
[19:16] <// J_Daito //> Just wait.
[19:16] <// J_Daito //> haha.
[19:16] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> but
[19:16] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> Keanu and Whasername and Fishburne said
[19:17] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> they won't do it
[19:17] <// J_Daito //> haha.
[19:17] <// J_Daito //> They dont need ANY of them
[19:17] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> of course then Keanu buys a new boat
[19:17] <// J_Daito //> when the Matrix reloads.
[19:17] <// J_Daito //> they can use new actors
[19:17] <// J_Daito //> for the reincarnations.
[19:17] <// J_Daito //> haha
[19:17] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> hehe
[19:17] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> lol
[19:17] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> like with the oracle.
[19:17] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> man I'm telling you
[19:17] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> maybe it failed as a standalone
[19:17] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> but it was a sufficient denoument
[19:17] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> and cmon
[19:17] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> you can't tell me
[19:17] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> Smith v Nwo
[19:18] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> wasn't cool
[19:18] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> that was a DBZ level fight
[19:18] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> just without ki blasts
[19:18] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> I don't think Neo died
[19:18] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> Beause the last shot of machine land we see
[19:18] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> is in NeoVision
[19:18] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> I think
[19:18] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> they are gonna patch his ass up
[19:18] <// J_Daito //> none of them died
[19:18] <// J_Daito //> none of them are real.
[19:18] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> DAMMIT
[19:18] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> stop that sh[BLEEP]t
[19:19] <// J_Daito //> they're all simulations in the matrix.
[19:19] <// J_Daito //> hahaha
[19:19] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> now that's just maximum denial
[19:19] <// J_Daito //> thats why neo can be jacked in.
[19:19] <// J_Daito //> hahhaa
[19:19] <// J_Daito //> the code got [BLEEP]ked up.
[19:19] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> you can't hand;e that I'm beating your ass on several fronts
[19:20] <// J_Daito //> hah
[19:20] <// J_Daito //> Beating me?
[19:20] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> so you have one fatal flaw thint
[19:20] <// J_Daito //> You gave me my primary points.
[19:21] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> no just one
[19:21] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> THE SOURCE = A CONNECTION?
[19:21] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> THE RED CANDY MOTHERFUCVKER
[19:21] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> if Smith can recode Bane
[19:21] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> Oracle can Recode Neo
[19:21] <// J_Daito //> SO WHAT
[19:21] <// J_Daito //> SO WHAT SO WHAT
[19:21] <// J_Daito //> you think I dont concur?
[19:21] <// J_Daito //> SURE
[19:21] <// J_Daito //> but that means NOTHING
[19:22] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> it means EVERYTHING
[19:22] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> because
[19:22] <// J_Daito //> his perceptions are altered AND?
[19:22] <// J_Daito //> THAT LINKS HIM?
[19:22] <// J_Daito //> no.
[19:22] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> it leaves us with
[19:22] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> just one more brige
[19:22] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> to cross
[19:22] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> the point you make about him being able to still HAHAHA
[19:22] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> LOL
[19:22] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> LOL
[19:22] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> LOL
[19:23] <// J_Daito //> ?
[19:23] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> duide
[19:23] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> it's so simpke
[19:23] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> LOL
[19:23] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> Wi-Fi
[19:23] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
[19:23] <// J_Daito //> wifi.
[19:23] <GERMATOID> NEO USED WIFI! MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!
[19:23] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> the body
[19:23] <// J_Daito //> [BLEEP] your wifi.
[19:23] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> puts out a bioelectric field
[19:23] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> what if the red candy
[19:24] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> HO
[19:24] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> I GOT IT
[19:24] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> I WIN
[19:24] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> the red candy
[19:24] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> recofigured his biorythms
[19:26] <// J_Daito //> .........
[19:26] <// J_Daito //> and you said
[19:26] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> so they are more matrixy
[19:26] <// J_Daito //> I was in denial.
[19:26] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> now
[19:26] <// J_Daito //> I mean.
[19:26] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> since he took it
[19:27] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> before he passed out
[19:27] <// J_Daito //> The oracle lied then huh?
[19:27] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> his brain
[19:27] <// J_Daito //> she said it was teh source
[19:27] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> would still be
[19:27] <// J_Daito //> SHE SAID
[19:27] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> in the matrixy way
[19:27] <// J_Daito //> it WAS THE SOURCE
[19:27] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> when scanned
[19:27] <// J_Daito //> hahaahahaa
[19:27] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> YES
[19:28] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> and who is the fucing source
[19:28] <// J_Daito //> so basically
[19:28] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> HER
[19:28] <// J_Daito //> you say
[19:28] <// J_Daito //> the movie is Good.
[19:28] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> anYES
[19:28] <// J_Daito //> only if you can retcon
[19:28] <// J_Daito //> EVERYTHING
[19:28] <// J_Daito //> in your head
[19:28] <// J_Daito //> ON THE FLY
[19:28] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> it had a few problems
[19:28] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> I guess I'm good like that
[19:28] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> haha
[19:28] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> man
[19:28] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> this way
[19:28] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> it would exlain everything except
[19:29] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> how his signal
[19:29] <// J_Daito //> it "would" would it?
[19:29] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> reached the sentinels
[19:29] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> yes.
[19:29] <// J_Daito //> Oh
[19:29] <// J_Daito //> obviously
[19:29] <// J_Daito //> sign language
[19:29] <// J_Daito //> yes
[19:29] <// J_Daito //> you see-
[19:29] <// J_Daito //> The sentinals
[19:29] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> no man
[19:29] <// J_Daito //> are all coded
[19:29] <// J_Daito //> to BLOW up
[19:29] <// J_Daito //> if theys ee
[19:29] <// J_Daito //> a raised hand
[19:29] <// J_Daito //> i mean
[19:29] <// J_Daito //> THAT FIXES it
[19:29] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> no wait
[19:29] <// J_Daito //> right?
[19:29] <// J_Daito //> what if
[19:30] <// J_Daito //> RIGHT?
[19:30] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> a tracker was enabled
[19:30] <// J_Daito //> i mean.. COME THE [BLEEP] ON man.
[19:30] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> something that let machines
[19:30] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> read his signals
[19:30] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> and then he
[19:30] <// J_Daito //> you
[19:30] <// J_Daito //> are SO [BLEEP]ING REACHING
[19:30] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> modulated them
[19:30] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> do you remember
[19:30] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> the tracker
[19:30] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> machine
[19:30] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> from movie 1
[19:31] <// J_Daito //> HE WAS STILL IN THE MATRIX THEN
[19:31] <// J_Daito //> hahahaha
[19:31] <// J_Daito //> they pulled THAT
[19:31] <// J_Daito //> before they pulled HIM
[19:31] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> nanites
[19:31] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> nanites
[19:31] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> hahah
[19:32] <// J_Daito //> out of the matrix
[19:32] <// J_Daito //> wouldnt have done ...
[19:32] <// J_Daito //> ometallia
[19:32] <// J_Daito //> NANITES
[19:32] <// J_Daito //> [BLEEP]ing...
[19:32] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> LOL it was nanite recomfiguration
[19:32] <// J_Daito //> MAN
[19:32] <// J_Daito //> Now Who is reaching
[19:32] <// J_Daito //> HUH
[19:32] <// J_Daito //> HUHUHUH?
[19:33] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> hahah
[19:33] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> man I admit
[19:33] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> I can't cross that final bridge
[19:33] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> YET
[19:33] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> but I'm sure
[19:33] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> some key piece of data
[19:33] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> will emerege
[19:33] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> too bad I deleted the ingame footage from enter the
[19:33] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> I'm sure it will end up on the Revolutions DVD
[19:33] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> because the footage is part of the last 2 filsm
[19:33] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> it shows bane doing the eMP
[19:33] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> and conversations between
[19:33] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> Oracvle and Niobe
[19:33] <// J_Daito //> Ten'ou
[19:33] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> and some otehrs hit
[19:33] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> it basically tells the Logos' tale
[19:33] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> and it's film footager
[19:33] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> not sh[BLEEP]t FMV
[19:34] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> actual film stock
[19:34] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> those guys you see in the logos crew
[19:34] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> they were in the game
[19:34] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> really the W. bros should have rereleased
[19:34] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> reloaded
[19:34] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> with that footage
[19:34] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> and put the rev footage in
[19:34] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> it makes things a touch clearer
[19:34] <// J_Daito //> ...
[19:34] <// J_Daito //> Look.
[19:34] <// J_Daito //> Animation wise.
[19:34] <// J_Daito //> It was a masterpiece.
[19:34] <// J_Daito //> the final battle.
[19:34] <// J_Daito //> Was great.
[19:34] <// J_Daito //> But with movie One
[19:34] <// J_Daito //> asking a deep Question... about the nature of reality
[19:34] <// J_Daito //> movie two exploring why we do what we do
[19:34] <// J_Daito //> Movie three
[19:34] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> : Movie three
[19:35] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> was the bullet after it left the chamber
[19:35] <// J_Daito //> was nothing but a Big Fight string of pastiches + ical meaningless DRIVEL that meant NOTHING
[19:35] <// J_Daito //> movie one was arming the viewer
[19:35] <// J_Daito //> and some people
[19:36] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> movie 2 was why will you pull this trigger
[19:36] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> movie 3
[19:36] <// J_Daito //> who are too embarassed because they dont want to be seen as not undrerstanding it will go - wow it was great
[19:36] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> was the firing
[19:36] <// J_Daito //> but [BLEEP] THAT
[19:36] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> I GOT IT
[19:37] <// J_Daito //> I see the emporer
[19:37] <// J_Daito //> and he HAS NO CLOTHES
[19:37] <// J_Daito //> HE HAS NO CLOTHES MOTHER[BLEEP]ER
[19:37] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> IT WAS MINDLESS FLUFF COMPARED TO ONE AND TWO
[19:37] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> BECAUSE ALL THE QUESTIONS THAT HAD TO BE ASKED
[19:37] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> WERE ASKED
[19:37] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> which is why I maintain
[19:37] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> 2 and 3
[19:37] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> should have been one film
[19:37] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> the balance would have worked better
[19:37] <// J_Daito //> ....
[19:37] <// J_Daito //> Man.
[19:38] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> you know it
[19:38] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> they just split it
[19:38] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> and [BLEEP]ed it up
[19:38] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> it's like
[19:38] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> Taking the Wrath of khan
[19:38] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> and pulling out the fight scenes
[19:38] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> and making them onshti
[19:38] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> it is just like
[19:38] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> Stasr Trek Nemesis
[19:38] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> they pulled out all the plot
[19:38] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> (n the matrix's case they frontloaded it to movie 2)
[19:38] <// J_Daito //> ...
[19:38] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> and just left in the fight scenes
[19:38] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> so on it's own
[19:38] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> it failed theatically
[19:38] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> thematicallt
[19:38] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> it was a bare skeleton
[19:39] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> now I will grant you
[19:39] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> even if you merge them
[19:39] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> that plot hole of tyourse
[19:39] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> will not go away
[19:39] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> wutht he game footage
[19:39] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> some of it can be healed
[19:39] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> but it can't be closed
[19:39] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> they need
[19:39] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> to do deveral things here
[19:39] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> 1 - release a complete DVD boxset
[19:39] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> 2 - have the game footage worked back into the last 2
[19:39] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> 3 - have a good commentary to finish fixing up holes
[19:39] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> You know what would SUCK ass
[19:39] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> if there are
[19:39] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> deleted scenes
[19:39] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> that explain all this [BLEEP]
[19:40] <// J_Daito //> You better pray there are.
[19:41] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> it ain't THAT bad
[19:41] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> I liked it
[19:41] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> Ionly have a few problems with it
[19:41] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> which I have enumerated.
[19:42] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> and they needed RATM
[19:42] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> hehe
[19:42] <// J_Daito //> theres so much.
[19:42] <// J_Daito //> SO much
[19:42] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> Noooooooooooooooooooooo
[19:42] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> j00 are ovah analyzing it
[19:42] <// J_Daito //> accept it for the mindless [BLEEP] it was
[19:43] <// J_Daito //> and like it
[19:43] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> it was not meant to be the discourdse on reality of the ne
[19:43] <// J_Daito //> Huh?
[19:44] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> I told tyou
[19:44] <// J_Daito //> you know
[19:44] <// J_Daito //> THE ONly thing
[19:44] <// J_Daito //> that didnt suck
[19:44] <// J_Daito //> in the movie?
[19:44] <// J_Daito //> Smith.
[19:44] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> MErovengina
[19:44] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> HAH
[19:44] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> true
[19:44] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> Smmith
[19:44] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> Legolas
[19:44] <FireFly_9> (elrond)
[19:44] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> oh yah
[19:44] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> haha
[19:44] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> El Ron Smitthard
[19:44] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> although
[19:44] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> I thought his little
[19:44] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> breakdown at th end
[19:44] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> was a tad forced
[19:44] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> he wasn't pushed far enough
[19:44] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> i think
[19:44] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> they should have had more of him v Newo
[19:44] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> even if it was just
[19:44] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> trading psychological barbs
[19:44] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> than the whole Zion thing.
[19:44] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> because in the end the distillation of the two extremes through them
[19:44] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> might have been good
[19:44] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> Smith takes everything, he gives nothing back, Neo gave ing
[19:44] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> and gave everything back
[19:44] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> now
[19:44] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> when oracle said
[19:45] <// J_Daito //> Man
[19:45] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> those who were not ours would be freed
[19:45] <// J_Daito //> Smith Was [BLEEP]ed up too.
[19:45] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> I'm wondering who she meams
[19:45] <// J_Daito //> Nonsensical
[19:45] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> hmm ennough
[19:45] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> I think
[19:45] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> we need to argue this again
[19:45] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> after seeing
[19:45] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> all 3 back to back
[19:45] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> plus game footage
[19:46] <// J_Daito //> True
[19:47] <FireFly_9> Umm... when was the last time you two visited slashdot?
[19:47] <// J_Daito //> ?
[19:47] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> Not for a while why?
[19:47] <FireFly_9> http://www.themeatrix.com/
[19:48] * FireFly_9 waits

[19:48] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> LOL
[19:48] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> still waching
[19:48] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> oh who cares about stupid animals
[19:49] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> LOL
[19:49] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> escape the meatrix Jed
[19:49] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> escape the meatrix
[19:49] <FireFly_9> That is a good use of flash and of parody in general.
[19:50] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> manI think ppl expected the matrix to solve all their fscking metaphysical problems or something
[19:50] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> damn
[19:50] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> yo umake them think a little
[19:50] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> suddenty they look to you to be their [BLEEP]ing saviour every time out
[19:50] <// J_Daito //>
bull[BLEEP]
[19:50] <// J_Daito //> The movie
[19:50] <// J_Daito //> Simply sucked.
[19:51] <// J_Daito //> you are covering
[19:51] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> a lot of ppl going home with fscking episotmelogical crises
[19:51] * FireFly_9 giggles

[19:51] <// J_Daito //> You cant Handle it.
[19:51] <// J_Daito //> haha
[19:51] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> bah
[19:51] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> double bah
[19:51] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> had fun watching it
[19:51] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> the slow bits aside
[19:52] <// J_Daito //> for the sfx
[19:52] <// J_Daito //> yes
[19:52] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> well
[19:52] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> yeah
[19:52] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> haha
[19:52] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> even the set pieces weren't that good
[19:52] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> sigh
[19:52] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> reloaded had the best ix man
[19:52] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> the best mix
[19:52] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> neo was at the top of his game
[19:52] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> and the agents were superbad
[19:52] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> and they still gave you stuff to chew on
[19:52] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> like what was Veri's woman's game anyway
[19:52] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> what was her realrole
[19:52] <FireFly_9> Eye candy.
[19:53] <// J_Daito //> haha
[19:53] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> I mean she seems to be the emotive program
[19:53] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> the artictect was talking about
[19:53] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> notice she was feeding off the fight
[19:53] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> WTF...
[19:53] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> they shoudl have answred those questions
[19:53] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> I feel like a large chunk was cut
[19:53] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> from revolutions
[19:53] <// J_Daito //> you hope
[19:53] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> yes
[19:54] <// J_Daito //> Hope. you know what the architect thinks of hope.
[19:54] <// J_Daito //> haha.
[19:54] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> :>
[19:54] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> I like the Oracle's cutdown of him
[19:54] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> heh
[19:54] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> hahahah the whole point of this movie
[19:54] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> was to unbalance the equation
[19:54] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> think about it
[19:54] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> haha
[19:54] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> everything was falling into place
[19:54] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> then she made it fall apart
[19:54] <--=[ SpeedRcrX ]=--> haha
[19:54] <// J_Daito //> heh
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